Tuesday, February 4, 2014


I saw it and thought it was well conducted. I thought the CNN moderator did a very good job of keeping time and keeping it moving and not betraying any bias of his own.

I also thought that Ken Ham did a very good job. Bill Nye seemed content to raise the usual questions and objections to creationism that one encounters all the time and that have been answered many times over, so that was frustrating. It would be nice to get past the usual misrepresentations of what a worldwide Flood would have done.

But I'd like to listen to the debate again more carefully when I have the time.

Here's the earlier post:


Coming up at 7 PM Eastern time, 4 PM here in the west.

It's all over the web and there are many sites that will be showing it live. Here's one.

NPR quotes Bill Nye, "the science guy" saying:
— Nye: "I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine. But don't make your kids do it. Because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future. We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems."
This is infuriating misrepresentation, and if there's anything Ken Ham should do it's answer this stupidity so well that it never rears its ugly head again.

The ONLY form of "science" that Creationists have any problem with is the sciences that deal with the prehistoric past, for which there is no observation possible and it's all just a matter of interpretation, a pure exercise in imagination. This is why the Theory of Evolution remains a "theory," because there is no way to replicate and test its theories in a laboratory the way the "hard" sciences can do with theirs. That's why they can get away with their ludicrous theory of evolution and a very ancient Earth -- because there is no way to prove or disprove it, it's all a matter of interpretation and persuasion. Engineers who can build stuff and solve problems do REAL science, not the mental cobweb science of evolution and the Old Earth

THEIR science is NOT science but apparently they don't know the difference.  Creationists DO know the difference and do REAL science.

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